tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post6638012252214981472..comments2023-07-23T00:43:30.334-07:00Comments on Theo's: An Unfortunate Oversight?The Rev. John Kirkleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17915490727988762513noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-63001879635953392782007-05-14T15:59:00.000-07:002007-05-14T15:59:00.000-07:00Well said, John! Thanks!Well said, John! Thanks!SUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-60110776098715150112007-05-14T16:18:00.000-07:002007-05-14T16:18:00.000-07:00Fr. John:I'm responding to the link to your bl...Fr. John:<br><br>I'm responding to the link to your blog on Integrity News.<br><br>I'm sure that you are right about the number of gay folk on the Executive Council, but, after 36 years as a journalist, I have to ask: Who are the other seven members of the Executive Council who are gay? Do they say so themselves? I sssume so, but I ask.<br><br>And –– I came in late on this one–– who appointed the members of the executive committee who will respond to the communique? And, after the HOB's resolutions and letter to TEC, why bother to make any response whatsoever?<br><br>Oh: This is the first time that I've seen a priest put his astrological sign on “About me” on his blog. I suppose that it's mandatory in San Francisco.<br><br>Samuel Hudson<br>Austin, TXTexan gentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-41886967499869133792007-05-14T16:36:00.000-07:002007-05-14T16:36:00.000-07:00Well said.It's rather incredible that such str...Well said.It's rather incredible that such strong wise women have not seen the need for the voices of the oppressed to be included.<br><br>That being said, as a (white) member of a historically Black parish, St. Luke's/Knoxville, I have to say that sadly it's not been uncommon in the past for Black voices to not included in considering issues of race. <br><br>Heterosexual privilege and white privilege are not all that different.<br><br>Nancy Mott<br>Knoxville, TNNancy Mottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-56779976590043386112007-05-14T16:39:23.827-07:002007-05-14T16:39:23.827-07:00Dear Texas Gent,Just to be clear, I am not a membe...Dear Texas Gent,<br><br>Just to be clear, I am not a member of Executive Council. Those who are gay and lesbian members include Edgar "Kim" Byham and Bruce Garner. Both are self-identified advocates for LGBT people so I am comfortable naming them. Others are known to me, but I don't know them well enough to publish their names without their permission. <br><br>The 40 elected members include the Presiding Bishop and the President of the House of Deputies. I believe they appointed the members of the committee. Executive Council is fashioning a response to the Communique because it acts as General Convention during the triennium. <br><br>BTW, Blogspot.com includes astrological sings in its member profiles for reasons unknown to me, but I don't attach any significance to that and neither should you. I do mention two personality typologies that I find helpful and interesting.Fr. Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06647311951078750640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-49474095067446864832007-05-14T17:04:00.000-07:002007-05-14T17:04:00.000-07:00Thanks John for posting this. I was unaware but M...Thanks John for posting this. I was unaware but Mark Harris et al should be watching this. Yes I will write.muthah+noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-62423228178952107522007-05-14T20:36:00.000-07:002007-05-14T20:36:00.000-07:00Take heart, Fr. John. Your position in the Episco...Take heart, Fr. John. Your position in the Episcopal Church is secure for the rest of your career there. All the significant positions of power and possibility for exciting ministry are open to LGBT candidates as we move forward. There's not a snowball's chance in Hell that we'll turn around now, with or without LGBT members on this particular subcommittee. The very fact that 20% of the EC are LGBT proves it.<br><br>It is true that TEC as a whole seems to be in a downward slide and its influence in the larger society waning significantly, but if it's influence in the church you want, fear not. The opposition to the new realities is splintering and defecting in large numbers. The inclusion side has stuck with the institution and has prevailed by doing the sometimes tedious, often thankless work of committee-sitting for years on end. Who ever predicted an all-female, all gay-positive leadership duet by 2007?Father Doughttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14847913093723860020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674624297271677945.post-45987089168057107432007-05-15T08:04:05.465-07:002007-05-15T08:04:05.465-07:00Dear Fr. Doug,I'm not afraid or insecure about...Dear Fr. Doug,<br><br>I'm not afraid or insecure about LGBT inclusion. I'm simply pointing out what seems to me an instance of continuing heterosexism. I'm not fearful or insecure about sexism or racism in the Church either, but that doesn't mean they have disappeared.<br><br>There is always work to be done.<br><br>Peace,<br><br>JohnFr. Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06647311951078750640noreply@blogger.com